In this episode, Jess and Stef sit down with the creator of New York Fashion Week, Fern Mallis.

Jess and Stef recall the first time they met Fern and how the approached her on a whim, and the three discuss a foolproof way to network with anyone. Fern shares the story of how she had the idea to create NYFW, her thoughts on how fashion weeks around the world could evolve, and why it’s important that we are always adapting.

This episode will have you hooked as Fern dishes out golden advice for students wanting to get into the industry as well as how shows like Project Runway (which she judged on) have changed the game for emerging designers. Fern shares the one cause every millennial should attach themselves to and why, oh, and tells all about that time she hung out Oprah Winfrey. No biggie.